Guaranteed way to not make money is to ask another person,however expert he might be,how to make money,irrespective of the percentage of return. Ever heard of someone becoming an surgeon,by learning from another surgeon,without going through the process of acquiring qualification,internship and practice?To make money,one has to first invest time in learning the skills of trade. Everybody expects return in unbelievable proportions without bothering to acquire the skill. Next comes practice and system development. Next comes money management and risk management. Once should first decide whether he wants to be a trader or investor. Investor is one who has different source of income and wants to have best returns on the surplus money he has. Whereas trading is a full time profession which takes time and discipline. A real professional trader will just continue to trade within the rules and never has any fixed target. He just rides with the market. An investor ,on the other hand,should be sure of his returns.