Backtesting and trading camarilla pivots

kdhrubo

Active Member
Results 31-Aug-2009

Short NIFTY 4677 SL 4686 SL triggered (-9)
Long Nifty 4707 SL 4680 SL triggered (-27)
Short NIFTY 4677 SL 4686 Booked 4660 (+17)
Short NIFTY 4677 SL 4686 Booked 4640 (+37)

Net gain = 18
 
I have been following this thread from very first post. I do not trade futures. I tried to implement this pivots on the scripts which i trade for intraday. After experimenting a lot, i was able to conclude few things and there are many things still unknown.
I had experimented the Camarilla pivots on the HDIL, SINTEX. this two scripts gives the better results because of the H-L range.

After the opening, I watch the High/Low of the day after the intial 5 minutes.
If the High is touched/almost there, then short the trade keeping the SL on H4. this trade is almost move till L3 or even L4 sometimes. in that way trade gets me very good range from H3-L3. only thing what is noted i never re-enter after L3 is broken.

The same is done with the Low of the day, i buy the trade with same procedure as stated above.

The problem which Iam facing is moving of the SL. tell me how to i proceed to move the SL. with both the scenerios.

There is another query to all of you.
If the trade opens between H3-H1, then trade always be in the direction of H1,H2,H3,H4... Likewise if the trade opens b/w L1-L3, then the direction is L1,L2, L3 & L4.
Please comment what should be done with the above scenerio with SL.

Likewise I do not trade with large money, i usually trade this with volume almost 100 earning somewhere around 300/day.

Awaiting all your comments on the above scenerios from all the seniors over here.

Thanks & regards,
BALMAL
 

kdhrubo

Active Member
I have been following this thread from very first post. I do not trade futures. I tried to implement this pivots on the scripts which i trade for intraday. After experimenting a lot, i was able to conclude few things and there are many things still unknown.
I had experimented the Camarilla pivots on the HDIL, SINTEX. this two scripts gives the better results because of the H-L range.

After the opening, I watch the High/Low of the day after the intial 5 minutes.
If the High is touched/almost there, then short the trade keeping the SL on H4. this trade is almost move till L3 or even L4 sometimes. in that way trade gets me very good range from H3-L3. only thing what is noted i never re-enter after L3 is broken.

The same is done with the Low of the day, i buy the trade with same procedure as stated above.

The problem which Iam facing is moving of the SL. tell me how to i proceed to move the SL. with both the scenerios.

There is another query to all of you.
If the trade opens between H3-H1, then trade always be in the direction of H1,H2,H3,H4... Likewise if the trade opens b/w L1-L3, then the direction is L1,L2, L3 & L4.
Please comment what should be done with the above scenerio with SL.

Likewise I do not trade with large money, i usually trade this with volume almost 100 earning somewhere around 300/day.

Awaiting all your comments on the above scenerios from all the seniors over here.

Thanks & regards,
BALMAL
Excellent post. I have been trying to move to cash segment with CAMARILLA as well. With my broker even if I place a SL order, it is never executed. So what I do is lets say I am long, then when my first target of 10-15 pts is achieved and it has now on 20+ , i place a SELL order at +12 to protect my loss. Then when its 30+ i modify sell order to 20+. Same is done for SHORT position in reverse. I keep modifying the sell or buy order. One example is below

NIFTY BOUGHT 4600
Now NIFTY 4615 ok place a SELL order at 4608,
Now NIFTY 4625 modify the SELL order to 4615
Now NIFTY 4630 modify again to 4620

Hope I am clear on this
 

kdhrubo

Active Member
Levels for 31-Aug-2009
Apologies for delayed post

NIFTY SEP 24
H4-4716
H3-4695

L3-4652
L4-4632

MINI SEP 24
H4-4715
H3-4694

L3-4652
L4-4631
 

kdhrubo

Active Member
Nifty buy 4715 sell 4727 gain 12
mini buy 4716 sell 4727 gain 12

nifty sell 4694 buy 4610 gain 84
mini sell 4694 buy 4610 gain 84

nifty sell 4632 buy 4610 gain 22
mini sell 4632 buy 4610 gain 22


total nifty = 118
total mini = 118

cash wise = 118*50 + 118*20 = 8260
 

radha55

Well-Known Member
Nifty Futures Profit for 1st Sept 2009

Nifty Futures opened at 4691.00.

This is outside the range.

So we wait for the range.

Soon price come in range H3 - H4.

We sell below H3 and buy above H4.

Buy triggered at H4(4716).

0.5% Target = 4739.58(achieved).
Now we keep 1% target with trailing stoploss of 0.5%.

Future reversed from 4746.90.

So during reverse journey our stoploss hit.

Profit = 4739 - 4716 = 23 points.

Now sell triggered at L3(4695).

Our next targets are L2, L1, H1, .....

All targets achieved in till L4(4631).

once 4631 is achieved we keep 0.5% Target.

0.5% Target = 4607.845 (achieved).

Futures made a low of 4596.10 and reversed.

So our stoploss at 0.5% get hit.

This time we make good profit.

4695 - 4607 = 88 points.

Total Profit = 23 + 88 = 111 points.

Profit of 5000+ with one lot of Nifty
 

radha55

Well-Known Member
Hello Radha,
Need few clarifications on your calculations for 31-aug-2009

NIFTY MININIFTY SEP 24 FUT values taken from BHAVCOPY are
INSTRUMENT,SYMBOL,EXPIRY_DT,STRIKE_PR,OPTION_TYP,OPEN,HIGH,LOW,CLOSE,SETTLE_PR,CONTRACTS,VAL_INLAKH,OPEN_INT,CHG_IN_OI,TIMESTAMP,
FUTIDX,MINIFTY,24-Sep-2009,0,XX,4691.1,4753.2,4641.2,4737.9,4737.9,86448,81294.17,780860,73820,28-AUG-2009,
FUTIDX,NIFTY,24-Sep-2009,0,XX,4705,4753.8,4643.2,4737.8,4737.8,583771,1372712.77,24348150,1302200,28-AUG-2009,

As per the values the levels are as follows

NIFTY
L3 = 4707
L4 = 4676

H3 = 4769
H4 = 4800

MINI NINFTY
L3 = 4707
L4 = 4677

H3 = 4768
H4 = 4799
Sorry my mistake,

while calculating by mistake i took the values of 27th August instead of 28th august.
 

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